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E69: Hormonal Headaches & Migraines? Why They Happen & What to Do Next with Dr Meg Mill

• Leisha Drews, RN, FDN-P, holistic hormone coach, period expert

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Welcome back to the Happily Hormonal Podcast. I have a really fun episode for you today with Dr. Meg Mill. She is a functional medicine practitioner, a fellow podcaster, and works with patients specifically on improving energy and headaches.

Today we're going to talk about migraines and headaches, how they relate to your hormones, and what you can do about them. This is something that is near and dear to my heart that I've experienced, and I know so many of you experience it as well.

In this episode:

  • [02:50] Dr.Meg Mill’s story from pharmacy to functional medicine
  • [07:36] The difference between headaches and migraines
  • [09:21] How to know if your headaches are hormonal
  • [14:07] Food triggers for headaches
  • [19:18] Stress and migraines
  • [22:03] Environmental triggers for headaches
  • [25:45] What to do if you have hormonal migraines


Resources
- Dr. Meg Mill's free Say Goodbye to Headaches Guide
- Nourish Your Hormones Course: use the code HHPODCAST for $50 OFF Nourish Your Hormones!
- 3 secrets to balance your hormones workshop
- Free hormone balance guide

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Website: www.megmill.com
Podcast: A Little Bit Healthier


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This podcast is for women and moms to learn how to balance hormones naturally in motherhood, to have pain-free periods, increased fertility, to decrease PMS mood swings, and to increase energy without restrictive diet plans. You'll learn how to balance blood sugar, increase progesterone naturally, understand the root cause of estrogen dominance, irregular periods, PCOS, insulin resistance, hormonal acne, post birth-control syndrome, and conceive naturally. We use a pro-metabolic, whole food, root cause approach to functional women's health and focus on truly holistic health and mind-body connection.

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Speaker 1:

Hey friends, I have a really fun episode for you today. I have Dr Meg Mills on with me, and she is a functional medicine practitioner, a fellow podcaster, and works with patients specifically on improving energy and improving headaches, and so today we're gonna talk about migraines and headaches, how they relate to your hormones and what you can do about them, because this is something that is near and dear to my heart, something that I've experienced, and I know so many of you experience as well. So we really try to go in depth today on what actually causes these headaches, how to know what type of headaches you're having, how to track whether they're hormonal or not, and then what to do about them. And, as, like so much of the time, it does come back to the basics and comes back to those foundational principles that I teach within Narsher Hormones and that I work with with my 101 clients, and then we expand from there into functional testing and some other things to look into as well. And just a fair warning to you, fellow mamas out there my kids were in a screaming mood while we recorded this episode. They were 100% fully taken care of by my husband, and yet they weren't really that quiet, so you're gonna hear a little bit of kid in with the episode, and that's just mom life, and hopefully it makes it a little bit more fun and relatable for you and my kids. Wanna be podcasters? What can I say? I'm gonna be happy to talk to you about it as well. I'm gonna have a good time and I'll see you in a little bit of a long video. Bye, welcome to the Happily Hormonal Podcast.

Speaker 1:

Now, if you're a little iffy on whether or not the word hormonal is a good one, you're in the right place. My name's Leisha Drews, registered Nurse and Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioner, turned Holistic Hormone Coach, and after going through my own hormone journey and having my three babies women and that, no matter what you've been told, it's possible for you to have thriving energy, good periods and a stable mood all month long, and I am here to show you the way I think it's time to change the narrative around words like hormones and hormonal and start to reclaim the power that we truly have as women, which is a power to change not only our own health but the health of all of our family for generations to come. Hormone balance doesn't have to feel hard. It can actually feel simple and fun when we do in a way that aligns with how our bodies were made. If you're ready to start trusting your body again and feeling really good in that beautiful body that you've been given, then grab yourself a yummy drink and maybe a snack and let's do this.

Speaker 1:

Hello, okay, I have Dr Meg Mills here with me and I'm so excited to dive in with you, meg, so I'd love to just have you introduce yourself a little bit. Tell us how you got into functional medicine and functional health, and I knew you focused on hormones a little bit, so I'd love to hear your story.

Speaker 2:

Yes, thank you so much for having me. So I was originally a PharmD. I graduated from pharmacy over 20 years ago and then went and did a residency in clinical ambulatory care pharmacy. So I worked in a lot of outpatient clinics, in med management clinics, with patients, and I kept seeing the same thing happen again People are getting put on more and more medications.

Speaker 2:

They're just surviving. They're really not thriving, not getting better. So you come back, you put them on a medication. Then they come back for their next appointment and instead of oh okay, you're doing better, it's okay, what's the next medication?

Speaker 2:

And I knew all the protocols, I knew why we were doing it, but I just was getting so frustrated by the fact that really it wasn't making changes for people.

Speaker 2:

In the same time, I was having some of my own health issues and going around to different specialists and just getting told you're fine, you look great, you're a picture of health, and here I'm like a young woman and I am in shape, but I feel terrible, and so I was just being blown off and not really getting any answers myself.

Speaker 2:

So it took me my own. I think we all have that personal story, that journey that makes us go to really find the answers and it made me start to seek alternatives in my own health and really start to get educated on natural ways of healing, on nutrition, on making all the changes, and it led me to functional medicine. So I actually then actually got a certification in functional medicine and left pharmacy and went to open my own functional medicine practice. So I see people actually all over the world. It's amazing the connections you make in today's world, but I see women all over the world really getting to the root cause. We do a lot of testing, we do a lot of diagnostic, personalized support and really just being able to see those health transformations is amazing yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I love that. Yeah, there's so much of that in my story too, and one thing that I notice with those of us who come from that more traditional medical model nursing, pharmacy, any of those things is that having that functional testing piece is so helpful and we have the background to be able to understand it in a different way. And so I really love being able to not just totally throw out everything that you went to college for and all of the experience that you had in the medical field, because I think it's so easy to throw the baby out with the bathwater and be like all of that's terrible. Let's just do everything natural, and I just think that that balance is so important. So I love that you have both sides of things, because, again, I just don't think that any one thing is the thing. I think that it's got to be a pretty open-minded process when we think about health.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, people will ask me oh, I have to stop. I work with you, I have to stop all my medications. I'm like, no, actually I don't want you to right now. They have purpose. You want to. Sometimes in certain situations the purpose is to pull back on them. But there is purpose to both.

Speaker 2:

And I have heard people say medication is poison and you're like well, medication has purpose in the right area and it can actually be life-saving, but it's just not the answer to everything and I think so many people in the conventional space like medication seems to be, in a lot of our health care models, the answer for everything and it's really OK. We're going to use a medication to band aid this and then we're going to use a medication to band aid this and we're really never getting to why it's happening. I know you have talked about birth control. That's like a perfect example of birth control does not balance hormones, it suppresses hormones and it actually depletes nutrients and you can't really use that hormone balance. It doesn't solve the problem. So we're just always going there first and there's so many things we can do to really get to the root and figure out what's going on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I love that. And I think that question of should I get off all my medications? It's honestly my actual ideal for you would be that your body is working great and it doesn't need medications. And with my scope of practice, absolutely not. I'm not going to tell you get off of medications. We need to work on the why first, and then a lot of times you can choose with your doctor to get off of those if it's the right time, and it's not that all or nothing. So I love that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, today I wanted to have you on because I know that you do specialize in headaches and migraines, and that is a symptom that can be hormonal and does affect a lot of women and has affected me in the past and even sometimes in the present, when things get really crazy in my life. And so I really wanted to dive into headaches today and just do a big overview of headaches and how to know the difference even between headaches and migraines, and then after that we'll get into patterns to recognize if they are hormonal or not. So I'd love for you to just start with wherever you want to start with that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so really when we're talking about, the headache and the migraine are two different things. So really looking at a lot of times the way you can identify it through pattern. But when we talk about this just to preface, whether you're specifically diagnosed with migraine or whether you feel like, ok, I just have had headaches or you still can pull them back, we still can see this decrease dramatically in instance of already no matter which one. But there are some patterns that we look for. So when we're looking at a headache, generally you're going to have more of a bit like it's more feeling like a tight band around your head. That could be from tension. It could come maybe sometimes it's like neck tension or shoulder tension, even going up the neck of jaw tension, but that actually doesn't generally have a pattern. It's usually short lived but there's no real pattern to it and it's generally on both sides of your head and, like I said, feeling like that tight banded feeling.

Speaker 2:

When we're talking about migraines, we're really looking more at a pattern. You can have the aura, you can have the, the pro drum, you can feel nauseous. You actually feel better often with migraines If you go lay down in someplace that's full, dark and quiet that you can actually get away from the light. That can help, and just being still can help. Often the migraines and not always, but will be on one side and it can be like a throbbing pains and usually like a throbbing pain that when you're still, like I said, and and shut your eyes and away from light, may feel a little bit better and that can also often less from four to even 72 hours. So when we're looking at these long headaches, these intense throbbing one sided, that's typically more of a migraine type headache.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, that makes sense and that's really clarifying. And then I would love to go into first of all, like why would headaches be hormonal? And how do we know if they are hormonal or if they're related to something else? And I know we're going to get into a lot of triggers.

Speaker 2:

So you can just yeah. So the first thing is if you are noticing that you have headaches, generally the week before when you're looking at your cycle weeks we start on day one when we first get our period till the day of the next start of the period. So if you're noticing that there's a pattern to your headache, so if you're actually getting a headache and I'm just going to use the headboard headache, in general it could be migraine, which often when they're hormonal they actually are migraines. But if you feel the head pain the week before your period generally is the most common time we can have during the period, or actually an ovulation can be another time. So a lot of people get that migraine when they're ovulating and generally the most common way are either a rapid change in hormones or an estrogen dominant over progesterone.

Speaker 2:

So let's start with ovulation. When you ovulate, your estrogen levels are going to go up like more quickly and then back down. So sometimes the reason you would get it during ovulation is because you're having that rapid change, that increase and drop in the estrogen. The most common reason that we have it before the period is actually because we have an estrogen dominance over progesterone and that's actually why a lot of women will find it more dramatic during perimetropause, because when we get to perimetropause we actually start to see, and this can happen even in your 30s, so it doesn't, I think. Sometimes when we think of metapause, we think of this like cliff. We fall off when we lose our period and it just changes. But this is just happening Incrementally in our body for so long over time. So you can start to have the lower progesterone which can actually make you more estrogen dominant, and then your progesterone should go up in your luteal phase and down, but sometimes that that's lower or going down faster than estrogen. We can become estrogen dominant and then we start to get the migraines.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, that makes perfect sense. I've noticed a lot of times the pattern is that, like around that estrogen drop time that you're mentioning, and it's like right as ovulation occurs, right before the period or even when estrogen stays low during the period. And with that being said, obviously, yes, the estrogen dominance can be a big factor as well. So if someone is seeing headaches around those times, what are some other common triggers? Because in my experience with migraine in myself and others, it seems like it's not usually just one thing. So what are some other common triggers that you see? Let's start with food.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm going to jump back to the estrogen and then we'll get into food, because I do want to mention something that I find very interesting, just for because I think your listeners are very educated on hormones. So sometimes when we're talking about estrogen, you're going to get estradiol as a blood draw. If you're going to get your estrogen checked, if you go to your gynecologist, let's say and they see I want to get my hormones checked you're going to get an estradiol blood level and I often with migraines, actually can see normal levels of estradiol but increased metabolites. And so I use the Dutch test whenever I'm testing hormones for migraines, because we can see the way hormones are metabolized and it's often we'll get.

Speaker 2:

So you have three phases of metabolism of the hormones. You have two in the liver and one in the gut, and sometimes what's happening is actually not that your overall estrogen levels are high, maybe your protrusions low, maybe you have high estrogen, but you could also have a balance there and also just have high levels of some of these metabolites that are giving you more estrogenic effects that we have to shift. So I just wanted to mention that caveat because I think people, if they've asked for those levels they're like, well, maybe I don't have high estrogen. One, the provider may not be looking at the optimal level, they may just be looking at the wide range. But two, they may not be checking your metabolites, so you may not actually be able to see that imbalance and then when you get to that level, you'll get a high estrogen. So I think we can get in the foods. I'm sorry, I just want to mention that because I think it's an important thing for people to understand, because we may be told different things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, that's why I use the Dutch test too, because there's so much more that we can see whether it has to do with with migraines and estrogen metabolism. Or if we're looking at PMS, there's markers on that that can give us insight into the way your progesterone is metabolized, like we're not just getting a one time blood marker of a hormone. We're actually getting four markers throughout a 24 hour period and we get to see how your body is actually using, breaking down the hormones. And that is a huge, huge point because we're getting so much more information with that. So I love that.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, so food triggers. It's complicated when it comes to headaches. So we know that there are certain foods that actually can trigger migraines. However, it's different for each person. And then there's actually two buckets when we're talking about food. So there's certain food groups that statistically have proven to cause migraines, and then there's also food sensitivities, which are individual to each person. So we'll start with the food groups and then I'll get into the food sensitivities. So we know foods like histamine containing foods, tyramine containing foods we salicylate, sulfite, MSG, aspartame.

Speaker 2:

Actually even caffeine is tricky, because caffeine can make people feel better but can also trigger when we have rebound Can. All these different foods in these groups can be triggers for people for the migraines. However, what is tricky is it's not a trigger for everyone and there is a threshold aspect. So when you're saying what are there's thresholds when it comes to it, like, what's putting you over that threshold? So sometimes people can actually have some of these foods at low levels and are totally fine, but if you eat too much of them or if you eat them in combination so we use wine, for an example, because wine has tyramine and histamine in it, and so sometimes people will say, well, I don't know wine doesn't trigger me. Sometimes I can have a glass of wine. I'm totally fine. Other times I have a glass of wine and I get a migraine. But it must not be the wine, because I don't always get it. But maybe you have that wine with some aged cheese or something else that had tyramine in it and it just put you over that threshold.

Speaker 2:

I have people that can eat certain amount of nuts, but if they go over that the handful of nuts, then they'll get triggered. But they can eat it in a small quantity. So there is an investigation aspect of really what you can eat and the levels you can eat. What I start having people do is really just print out a blank calendar and then document, when you get your migraine, what you've eaten in the past 48 hours. So if then start to look for patterns and see if you can just that's a first step do you see any patterns that start to emerge that you were not suspecting?

Speaker 2:

A salicylate food can be a citrus. So lemons you're not thinking maybe that that lemon water that you're putting in for detox it could be triggering you, but that could be a trigger. So it's a little bit. It can be a little bit tricky and not all the foods that can trigger migraines are actually like they're bad for you. There are a lot of them are healthy foods, so you don't want to necessarily eliminate them forever, but you just want to investigate them and find your level. Then we have food sensitivities and those are foods that are actually getting through the gut lining. So you get the leaky gut and test on permeability and you're getting food that's going through the lining and then you're starting to get an immune response to those foods and those are individual for each person. So sometimes, whenever we're working with headaches and migraines, doing food sensitivity tests or elimination of some of those foods for a period of time can be really beneficial to really pinpoint unique foods to you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I think that's so good. And so I do think that those like big essentially groups of foods that can feel pretty intimidating. Because if you're like I'm looking at histamine, I'm looking at salicylates, I'm looking at tyrosine, I'm looking at all of these things, it's like that's every food. Essentially it's not every food, but like it feels like it when you look at the list. And so I love what you said about keeping a diary and paying attention to that 48 hours before, because it's not just the meal before, it's not even just the 12 hours before, and so that can really help identify versus feeling like you have to cut out every single food and then start adding them back in at this really slow, perfect pace so that you can figure out what's the issue.

Speaker 1:

And again, when we're going back to hormonal migraines, you may just not be able to eat that food within 48 hours of ovulation or you may just not be able to eat that food around your period of time. You may have a different response there. And I think, when I look at histamine foods and headaches, when you have histamine issues already from whatever, from leaky gut, from environmental toxins, from all of the different things that can cause histamine issues. When your estrogen rises so dramatically at ovulation, that can be a trigger for histamine as well, and so that may be a time where you can tolerate, where you can't tolerate, some foods that you would be able to. So, not to make it sound like it's really complicated, but also like it is complicated, and so sometimes it really is helpful to have someone else looking at it, because it's hard to see for yourself a lot of times.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, and that's where we really do a lot of. I say we become like detectives of you because there is an aspect of really evaluating and I have a lot of things in place to make it easier because I work with these all the time. So you need sometimes support and steps that you can figure out how to get these things to change in an easy way. And if you search the migraine diet, you're going to essentially feel like you just said well, I can't eat anything on the migraine diet. But it's really investigating rather than eliminating.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's so good, okay. So let's talk about stress, because stress is a huge trigger as well.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and so when we look at stress and we look at hormones, we see that HPHG access. So we look at the hypothalamus and the pituitary, then we have the adrenals, the thyroid and the gonads, which are your estrogen and progesterone. So adrenals are above the gonad hormones, and so if we're working on the estrogen and progesterone which we need to but we're not addressing adrenal health, then we can really be missing the mark too. So we need to go back. We talk about the progesterone steel when your cortisol is high. That's like the term. It's not exactly the way it happens, but we can get low levels of progesterone because you have raised cortisol. So we need to look at all of these in balance.

Speaker 2:

So what actually can start to happen when it comes to adrenals is you get in this what I call the chain of pain, because the pain from your headaches is actually a biological stressor on your body. So we think of stress as our to-do list. We're busy moms, we have a lot going on which can all put you in fight or flight, and our stressors, but we have biological stressors too. So when you're inflamed, when you have underlying infections, when you have pain from your migraines, you're actually also getting stress, which can increase your cortisol, which can increase your pain sensitivity actually. So it's like the pain increases, the stress increases the pain and we can get in this cycle.

Speaker 2:

So we really need to work on our adrenals and work on breaking that pain cycle and so just things that you can start to do, like it doesn't have to be overwhelming. I even tell people start with put your timer on and take two minutes out of your day, like two to three times a day, and just sit back, relax your body, feel yourself in the parasympathetic nervous system and do some breath work. We know that that breath work can bring our body back into the parasympathetic nervous system. So inhale slowly, hold your breath, release and just really focus on that so you can start to get that calm feeling, start to recognize that calm, a little bit different things that resonate for them when it comes to really getting back into that parasympathetic nervous system.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that, just like really simple practice of getting into your body can be something that we're missing when we're running around all day as busy moms. But yeah, I feel like that, just like really simple breath work, like doing a body scan, just noticing what your body feels. It's really amazing how you can walk away from three to five minutes of that and be like, oh, like I feel a little bit different. Right, I can bring those stress hormones down and you can repattern your stress patterns throughout the day by doing that multiple times a day. That's free, that's at home, that's something you can do. That actually really does make a difference for your adrenals and for your hormones, so I love that. Okay, so the last kind of point we wanted to hit on was talking about your surroundings and like triggers in your environment that can trigger migraines, and I know this is a big one, but I'm sure there's some really like top things that you notice the most.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so one of the things that we have a lot of data onto are heavy metals. So if you have different heavy metal exposure, that can be something underlying that you might not even be realizing if you've had lead exposure. Lead is an interesting one because sometimes when you have lead exposure at a young age, like as a child, it can actually store in your bones and not start to leach your bones until you get older and you have some breakdown of your bones. And so often women can start to experience these symptoms later in life from an exposure potentially a long time ago, which I think is can also be another thing that can be confusing, because you are looking at your environment and thinking, okay, well, I'm not having any current exposure, so we look at that, we look at heavy metals, we look at mold.

Speaker 2:

So if you, one of the things that you can look at there is do you feel better when you're on vacation than you do? Did you notice? Oh, I go away and I never have migraine when I'm on vacation, but then I come back and they hit me hard. Now your stress levels can also be down when you're on vacation too, so that could be another change. But do you have mold in your environment. And then we also mentioned histamines and really the histamine level can be a big trigger for a lot of people. So maybe getting an air filter for your bedroom, getting some of the air cleaned out, really making sure that your house is clean, and if you have any environmental allergies and things like that, those can also make a big difference in the way people feel. So we're just looking at your environment, your exposure, your exposure to chemicals and even endocrine disruptors and things like that in your environment, and just cleaning all that up and really developing an awareness and paying attention to your surroundings.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think those are all really good points. I think that we look at the environment and we talk about endocrine disruptors. Those are things that I think many of my listeners are aware of right, that you want to be looking at the products that you're putting on and in your body and then you want to be looking at your cleaning supplies and things like that and making sure that they don't have a lot of extra chemicals that are going to be endocrine disruptors, because that can effectively increase your hormones, even on its own, but just specifically your estrogen, and cause more of a burden on your body, because a lot of those are. When we say endocrine disruptors, we're talking about like they disrupt the way your body is making hormones, and so that's something to be aware of.

Speaker 1:

But I also agree that there's sometimes other things in our environment that we're not even aware of, and mold is something that I have had experience with, unfortunately, recently, and it's a hard one to figure out sometimes. And so I think, just being open to thinking about the scope of your life, do you think that you've been exposed to some heavy metals and doing a little bit of research on that on your own and then coming to a practitioner and getting testing if you're not sure, or even if you are like I think I have, but then also thinking about have you lived in homes or buildings that are water damaged, or was your school water damaged or your workplace? A lot of times that is a question that I'll ask and people are like oh yeah, I think my work is definitely half mold, but you almost don't think that that would really be affecting you, and so things just like doing that kind of like assessment in a curious way and not a like stressed out way is really helpful.

Speaker 2:

Yes, absolutely. I know, and yeah, you're there. You mentioned work. You're there all day, make five days a week potentially. So think about all environments, not just the home is a good point.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so okay. So just like wrap this episode up. I would love to hear from you when you have someone come to you and they're like I have migraines, I think they're hormonal. What are a couple of things that they can do? I think we've talked about the assessment piece. Maybe that's where you would start, or like, where would you start for them to start to get some progress?

Speaker 2:

So when we're talking about migraines, we're talking about threshold and we're talking about what's going to put you over that edge to really get that migraine. And often the hormones can be that final piece of the puzzle. So what we want to do is really look at. So I guess if you feel like your hormones, that your migraines are hormonal, it probably would be beneficial, first of all, for you just to run a hormone test, have a Dutch test run so we can see exactly the pattern. Because as soon as I do that, I'm like okay, this is exactly what we need to do, shift and shift, and then that can make a huge difference. But to start, you actually can do things like hydration and sleep are two independent risk factors for migraines.

Speaker 2:

So, really making sure, go to the basics, make sure you're drinking enough water. Are you drinking enough water? Maybe even consider adding an electrolyte to one of your glasses of water day, because we do need to make sure for migraines that we're being hydrated at a cellular level. So that is important. To sip your water through the day. Don't just think, oh wait, I didn't drink today and chug a bottle of water because a lot of that's just going to go through you and not be absorbed the way we really need the absorption.

Speaker 2:

So, to make sure you're doing that, really evaluate do you actually go to sleep at night, and I know that's for especially for moms with little kids sometimes. Well, that's my time that I like to have that personal time at night, which is wonderful, but are you getting enough sleep? Because that's another thing that can put you over that edge. So, really doing some of that self care and starting maybe to even do incorporate some of those breathing exercises to make some of those other pieces of the puzzle really in it, like to wrap those up and make sure that you're really solid, there can just be helpful places to start.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1:

That's really my thing that I come back to the most time, I mean with every single topic that we talk about is you have to have those basics in place, right?

Speaker 1:

You're not going to make progress with heavy metal testing If you're not sleeping, you're not nourishing your body, you're stressed the heck out all day long, you're never getting sunshine. You have to have those things in place to be able to get the exponential results that you want from getting rid of heavy metals in your body or getting rid of mold in your home. And so, even in that context of oh man, I might have heavy metals and mold, well, the thing that you can do to move the needle right now is make sure those baselines are in place and then, when you get the hormone testing and when you get the other testing, we can actually see what's the next step, versus getting the hormone testing and saying, wow, your hormones are a mess, you should probably eat some food, yeah. So I think that that's really important to just take that responsibility and start to do those basic things. That can feel hard, but they are doable and they are just like changing patterns and changing priorities, and so I think that's so good.

Speaker 1:

I've loved this so much. So, meg, tell us where we can find you and we'll link to everything the show notes to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, great. So I also have a podcast that's called A Little Bit Healthier and you can check me out there. We talk about things you can do every day in your life just to live a little bit healthier. I also do have a free guide and we can link that. That's just at helpmyheadakescom. So if you resonate with this, if you're someone who does get headaches or migraines, you can get some steps to get started at helpmyheadakescom. My website is just megmillcom, it's just megmillcom, and I'm over on Instagram at Dr Meg Mill it's just drmgmill, so I hang out over there. So any of those places I'd love to connect.

Speaker 1:

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